Игрок 9128·Не рекомендует·1491 ч в игре

================================================== 1,490 HOURS LATER I LOVE THE GAME - I HATE THE SYSTEM ================================================== Yes. I have almost 1,500 hours in Throne and Liberty. And before somebody writes: "If the game is so bad, why did you play for 1,500 hours?" Because the game itself is NOT bad. That is exactly the problem. I loved the combat. I loved learning my class. I loved raiding. I loved improving my character. I loved playing with other people. I loved chasing better gear. There is a genuinely good MMO here. But after 1,490 hours, I can no longer recommend the progression and monetization surrounding it. ================================================== >>> THE PROBLEM IS LUCENT <<< ================================================== Lucent is connected directly to the Auction House. You can earn it by playing. You can also buy it with real money. And that money can then be used to obtain progression from other players. So while one player spends hours farming, waiting for drops, fighting RNG and trying to make enough Lucent... another player can open the shop. $$$$ -> LUCENT -> GEAR -> PROGRESSION People can call that "pay for convenience" if it makes them feel better. For me: REAL MONEY BUYING MEANINGFUL PROGRESSION = P2W. ================================================== >>> "BUT YOU CAN GET EVERYTHING FOR FREE" <<< ================================================== Yes. You can. I know. I PLAYED FOR 1,490 HOURS. The question was never whether progression is technically possible without paying. The question is how much time, RNG and frustration separates the F2P player from somebody willing to spend money. POSSIBLE FOR FREE DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MEAN FAIR. ================================================== >>> THE WORST PART? THE GAME IS ACTUALLY GOOD <<< ================================================== If Throne and Liberty were simply terrible, I would have quit after 20 hours. I didn't. I stayed for almost 1,500. That should tell you something. The combat can be great. Large-scale battles can be amazing. Raids can be fun. The world looks beautiful. Character progression CAN feel satisfying. But every time progression becomes frustrating, there is always one uncomfortable thought in the background: "I could just buy Lucent." And I hate that feeling in an MMO. I want great equipment to make me think: "That player earned something impressive." Not: "Did they grind for that or buy their way there?" ================================================== >>> I AM NOT AGAINST SPENDING MONEY <<< ================================================== This is important. I WANT to support games I enjoy. Sell me: + Skins + Mounts + Outfits + Weapon skins + Emotes + Cosmetics + A reasonable Battle Pass Take my money when I WANT to give it to you. Just don't connect my wallet to character power. There is a huge difference between: "I spent money because I love this game." and: "I spent money because I was tired of the progression." Good monetization should create the first feeling. Never the second. ================================================== >>> WHAT I WOULD CHANGE <<< ================================================== The frustrating part is that I genuinely think this could be fixed. - Reduce the dependence on the Lucent Auction House - Give players more reliable progression through gameplay - Reduce excessive RNG - Make valuable loot feel rewarding instead of lottery-like - Give newer and F2P players realistic catch-up systems - Let playing the game be the best way to progress If somebody plays for hundreds of hours... reward that person for PLAYING. ================================================== >>> L.T.W.P.W.T.W. <<< ================================================== Let the Whales Play with the Whales. If the long-term plan is to build progression around players willing to spend large amounts of money, then eventually that is who will remain. But an MMO cannot survive on whales alone. It needs: Casual players. Hardcore players. New players. Returning players. F2P players. Paying players. It needs a community. ================================================== >>> FINAL VERDICT <<< ================================================== Do I regret my 1,490 hours? No. I had some genuinely great times in Throne and Liberty. That is why writing a negative review actually sucks. But I am reviewing the game as it exists now, not the memories I had with it. And after experiencing its progression for almost 1,500 hours: I CANNOT RECOMMEND THE SYSTEM THIS GAME IS BUILT AROUND. There is a great MMO underneath it. I just wish progression respected my time more than my wallet. ================================================== 1,490 HOURS PLAYED. THE GAME DESERVES BETTER. THE PLAYERS DESERVE BETTER. ==================================================

Игрок 6717·Не рекомендует·36 ч в игре

It's a money grab stay away from it. Good concept. The story line will take you so far to where progressing in negligible and devs want you to buy into it to move forward. Stay away. ps devs. People will pay into a game and play it if they see progress without paying. Slamming the brakes on players just makes them leave.

Игрок 6219·Не рекомендует·5757 ч в игре

If you're new and want to play this game be aware that you won't be able to do most of the content other than PVE. Even spending real money as a new player to get yourself some gear is not enough. You don't have the means to ride along old players and really need to consider your runes, artifacts, weapon masteries, unlock stones, traits unlock stones, heroic gear/materials, and gear watermarks to get you in an optimal position. The game is stingy about everything and pretty much everything you need to progress is gatekeep.

Игрок 4682·Рекомендует·95 ч в игре

Throne and Liberty hat mir deutlich mehr Spaß gemacht, als viele der eher mäßigen Stream-Reviews vermuten lassen. Vor allem das Gameplay hat mich überzeugt. Die verschiedenen Waffen- und Klassenkombinationen fühlen sich unterschiedlich genug an, dass es Spaß macht, mehrere davon auszuprobieren. Ich habe zunächst drei oder vier verschiedene Varianten getestet, mich irgendwann für eine entschieden und meinen Charakter damit bis zum Max-Level gespielt. Allein damit war ich ungefähr 60 Stunden sehr gut beschäftigt. Danach habe ich noch einmal rund 30–35 Stunden ins Endgame gesteckt, Ausrüstung gefarmt und meinen Charakter weiter optimiert. Irgendwann war für mich dann allerdings die Luft raus. Das Endgame besteht erwartungsgemäß zunehmend aus wiederholbarem Grind und hat mich auf Dauer nicht mehr genug motiviert. Aber genau deshalb würde ich Throne and Liberty trotzdem empfehlen – nur vielleicht mit einer etwas anderen Erwartungshaltung. Man muss ein MMO meiner Meinung nach nicht automatisch mehrere hundert oder sogar tausend Stunden spielen, damit es sich gelohnt hat. Als eine Art „Einweg-MMO“, bei dem man die Welt erkundet, verschiedene Klassen ausprobiert, seinen Charakter hochlevelt und anschließend noch eine Weile ins Endgame eintaucht, funktioniert Throne and Liberty hervorragend. Wer nicht unbedingt das nächste MMO für die kommenden fünf Jahre sucht, sondern einfach Lust auf ein gutes MMORPG-Erlebnis für etwa 60 bis 90 Stunden hat, bekommt hier meiner Meinung nach sehr viel geboten. Für mich waren es am Ende knapp 100 Stunden – und der Großteil davon hat wirklich Spaß gemacht.

Игрок 3530·Не рекомендует·3394 ч в игре

El juego fue muy bueno, de los mejores, estuve jugando casi 2 años sin parar, lo que demuestra mis horas de juego, pero siendo honestos, hoy en dia ya solo esta dedicado a los jugadores veteranos, entrar siendo un don nadie al juego sin gente que te guie es horrible, ya paso su epoca, y queda dar paso a lo que viene con el aion 2, y todo apunta que el interes de la empresa matriz sera tambien lo mismo, no recomendaria a nadie empezar a jugar TL hoy en dia.

Игрок 1551·Не рекомендует·6153 ч в игре

after 6k hours i have to make a review, and it is coming down to: the game is really unbalanced, time to kill is way to low, maybe you have more fun as dps or tank as a healer in this game. if you are a supporter-kinda-guy, run away from this game and never look back, devs hates supports. only good thing in this game are friends you made along the suffering

Игрок 8302·Рекомендует·639 ч в игре

The game has become very fun. They have unblocked alot of the content and extended others. The gate keeping in most of the content has been taken away but they have broken down the dungeons to where you cannot farm for loot until you reach level 55-60 whic, in my opinion is a downgrade. Upside is they opened the game alot more after that point and are giving you super boosted gear sets while playing through to that point just makes it so you do not have to run those dungeons at the low levels. So yeah that is ok, but when you get to the point in the game to run the dungeons which do drop loot you are not ready for any kind of challenge which, well, is non existent at that point. You can just run through it with no problem and mow down the boss, even if you were to do it solo. There is tons of story and a ton of side quests which will keep you very busy, so good yeah? BUT! The content is so scattered and you will spend alot of time just trying to navigate and try to find what in the actual "F" is it that you are looking for and what to do. Most of the time(about 200 hours or so) you will be lost in a world of ADHD content because everything is so damned confusing but for some reason you will not want to stop and you will keep playing trying to master every little thing there is in this most confusing of menus and world. If you try to ask someone or ascertain any kind of knowledge from YouTube or Google you will just be saying to yourself,"HUH? What was that? That is not what I was looking for". But become even more intrigued as to how the hell you are gonna go about getting to what it is you are doing while forgetting why you even did a google search and just go back to the game just to brush that issue to the side and try something else, well because there is ALWAYS Something else to do. Once you start to feel like you are getting the hang of it and you are getting a routine going the game will through more content at you and say," HAHAHA! Now go play with this shiz kids!" and you will be back to square one trying to figure your life out all over again. All in all it is a game with many flaws but nothing to make you want to stop playing because it keeps you thinking and the game is truly fun and keeps you wrapped in its confusing yet super fun blanket of ArItArDiNeSs. Making you lose all concept of time and wondering where you left your tail or asking yourself if you even had one and if you didn't why are you even looking for one. So yeah. give it whirl, make some friends and get lost like me and everyone else in the Realm of Thrown in the Liberty. PvE to scale yourself into PvP. LETS HAVE A BLAST! Now where was I going with this again? 8.5/10 P.S. While it is a cash cow there is no reason at all for you to pay anything to play this game and be at top tier levels and giving the top tier players a run for their money. Everything is balanced very well and everyone is grinding just as much. The harder you go the better you will be. That is all there is to that. Be present everyday and grind like you have no life other than this game.

Игрок 7645·Не рекомендует·66 ч в игре

Zu viele Systeme, zu viele Microtransactions. Überfordert mich und hält mich nicht fest.